3/18在台北的國立政治大學舉行亞太區域的首次無條件基本收入會議

Unconditional Basic Income

3/18在台北的國立政治大學舉行亞太區域的首次無條件基本收入會議

文章howie » 2017-03-28, 01:49

特別針對亞太區域的首次無條件基本收入會議,上禮拜六(註:3/18)在台北的國立政治大學舉行。
The first UBI Conference related specifically to the Asia-Pacific region took place last Saturday at the National ChengChi University in Taipei.

無條件基本收入在澳洲是由一個強大的政黨派系所提出。在澳洲,他們(註:可能指代表澳洲的講者)說,人們在各種層面上討論此想法,也在國會中討論。就澳洲方面的發展現況,由Gregory Marston、Munly Leong及Gray Flomenhoft透過Skype演說。在澳洲的籌資方式,如同在美國,人們正特別考慮用一種分紅的方式進行。作為一種分紅而支付給所有人的無條件基本收入,來自於資源和其它東西的消費,最終也就是一種消費稅。
Australia was represented by a strong faction. In Australia, they said, the basic income is discussed by many people and at all levels. Also in Parliament.
For Australia, Gregory Marston, Munly Leong and, via Skype, Gray Flomenhoft made a speech. Financing, in Australia - as in the USA - they are thinking of a dividend in particular. The disbursement of the basic income as a dividend to all from the consumption of resources and others. - Ultimately, a consumption tax.


同時,透過Skype,日本的山森亮及印度的Sarath Davala兩位教授也有參與。南韓的安孝晟也抵達政大。南韓城南市的市長李在明是我兩年前在首爾採訪的對象,他現在是總統候選人並相信無條件基本收入。然而,安孝晟相信李在明沒有機會贏得選舉。從中國而來的成福蕊是主講人之一。我在上禮拜已在北京見到她。此次會議的隔天晚上,我們見面吃晚餐。在我們的對話中,她提到無條件基本收入在中國的發展路徑看起來可能會是怎樣的。關於這點,當我回去北京時會再講更多。
Also via Skype Toru Yamamori from Japan and Sarath Davala from India took part. From South Korea Hyosang Ahn was arrived. The mayor of the city of Seongnam in South Korea, with whom I conducted an interview two years ago in Seoul, is now a presidential candidate and convinced of the unconditional basic income. Hyosang Ahn, however, believes that he does not have a chance at this election. From China, Cheng Furui was keynote speaker. I met her already last week in Beijing. The next evening after the Conference we met for dinner. In our converstaion she came up to it how the path to the basic income can look like in China. About this I’ll tell later more, when I’m back in Beijing.


在此次會議的參與者中,也有來自新加坡、紐西蘭、南非與瓜地馬拉的人們。他們之中有「瓜地馬拉無條件基本收入」的發起人,一開始帶我去看哪裡可以在這裡喝到真正的好咖啡。我首次遇見他是在蘇黎世的會議「工作的未來」上。現在他在台北讀書。
Among the participants of the conference also were people from Singapore, New Zealand, South Africa and Guatemala. Among them the founder of the Basic Income Initiative Guatemala, which at first showed me where I can get a really good coffee here. I met him first at our conference “The Future of Work” in Zurich a year ago. Now he is studying in Taipei.


在台灣這裡,就像許多其它場會議一樣,無條件基本收入的討論主要是關於窮人的需求、消滅貧窮以及「誰需要它」這些想法來主導。因此,我一定要清楚聲明,控制貧窮是高貴光榮的事業,但無條件基本收入的想法可不僅止於此。無條件基本收入是給「所有人」,而不只是社會中的一小部份,它沒有設下界限。它影響到社會中的所有人。無條件基本收入的理念一定要維持得清楚純粹。其中再也沒有其它東西、沒有一堆措施來包覆它、不是重新分配、不是社會公義、不是建造社會。上述這些總結的概念本身可以是崇高的,但與無條件基本收入是不同的東西。而上述這些東西扭曲了無條件基本收入。在生活中,或許有各種步驟及妥協,但不是在想法本身裡面。每個人一定要了解這個差別。
Here, as at many conferences, the basic income issue is dominated by the need of the poor, by abolishin poverty, by a support for those who "need" it. Therefore it must be be clearly stated that poverty control is honorable, but something else than the idea of an unconditional basic income. This is for all, not for a part of the society, it does not border. It leaves no one unaffected. The idea of the unconditional basic income must remain clear. There is nothing else in it, no package of measures, no redistribution, no social justice, no construction of a society. All that summed up there can be honorable in itself, but it is something different than the unconditional basic income. And it distorts it. In life there can be all sorts of steps and compromises. Not in the idea. That difference must be understood. Everybody understands it.


在台灣方面,我已在美國的亞特蘭大見過徐萍,她積極活躍推動無條件基本收入 ,而來自美國的Tyler Prochatzka是台北政大的學生。在此次的亞太地區會議中,相比於其他人,他們已給我最多的主講和問答時間。他們在台北及在台灣也替我組織過更多的會議。就工作收入能留給他的時間而言,同樣積極的是Albert Lin, 他安靜努力地推動。他與在台灣南部的一小群無條件基本收入支持者組成的團體,我會在下禮拜三去拜訪。
In Taiwan, Ping Xu, who I had already met in Atlanta, USA, is active for the basic income, and Tyler Prochatzka from the USA, student at the ChengChi University in Taipei. At the Asia Paci conference, they had given me the most time for a keynote speech and a Q&A in comparison to others. And they organized more meetings for me in Taipei and in the country. Also active, as far as his earning leaves time to him: Albert Lin, the silent one, industrious. His small basic income base group in the south of the island I’ll visit on Wednesday.


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